Electrician (ELE)

First Period Package (35 Modules) Comments

Date: 8/25/2023 7:30:30 AM
Module: 030101a
Version: 24
Page: 50-51
Comment: Figure 48 and Figure 50 are the same image with the same description. Figure 48 should be a different image as it is supposed to depict a single choker hitch.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 1/3/2023 1:57:31 PM
Module: 030101a
Version: 24
Page: 31
Comment: Question #1 in the objective 4 activity is wrong. The answer to the question is stated as being "d" in the back of the book but that clearly does not reflect the information given in table 6.
Status: Implemented

Date: 2/28/2024 2:46:40 PM
Module: 030101a
Version: 24
Page: 14, 19 and 60
Comment: Objective Two Activity, Question 2: Based off of Figure 2, Page 14 both b) and d) are correct answers. Also, a quick Google image search will have you realize the majority of the fire triangles are oxygen, fuel and heat.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 2/28/2024 2:50:41 PM
Module: 030101a
Version: 24
Page: 30 and 31
Comment: According to Table 6 on Page 30, there is no correct answer to Objective Four Activity, Question 1. The correct answer according to Table 6 is (No. 1 first aid kit)
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 11/24/2023 10:36:39 AM
Module: 030101c
Version: 24
Page: 6
Comment: Table 1 shown on pages 6, 7, 8 & 9 has WHIMIS instead of WHMIS at the bottom of the Table.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 11/24/2023 10:32:12 AM
Module: 030101c
Version: 24
Page: 5
Comment: Last paragraph on page should be referring to Table 1, not Table 3.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 2/1/2023 11:54:47 AM
Module: 030101d
Version: 24
Page:
Comment: Honestly, I wanted to submit basically a comment on how the whole first year electrical modules need to be reviewed. There have been spelling errors, poor grammar and wrong answers throughout the modules, especially with the changes in code. From version 22, to 24 there are huge gaps within the modules pertaining to crucial information on the online quizzes.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 10/23/2019 9:19:42 AM
Module: 030101e
Version:
Page: 44969
Comment: The latest version of Workplace Electrical Safety is the Z462-18 version. there are multiple changes from the 2012 version; for example there are no longer 3 approach boundaries, there are no longer 5 hazard risk categories, reference tables have changed, etc. The first objective of this module needs a total re-write to bring it up to the current standard.
Status: Update in Progress

Date: 8/31/2022 2:03:48 PM
Module: 030102d
Version: 24
Page: 27
Comment: Figure 32 shows two resistors both labeled R1, and in the text one of these resistors is referred to as R2. Please update the graphic.
Status: Implemented

Date: 3/1/2023 9:09:42 AM
Module: 030103a
Version: 24
Page: 6
Comment: The solar cell illustrated in figure 5 is contradictory to the solar cell pictured in the fourth year ILM 030404g figure 15. The N type material is used for the light side in every illustration I can find, and makes more sense in terms of semiconductor theory.
Status: Implemented

Date: 8/31/2022 3:25:45 PM
Module: 030104a
Version: 24
Page: 9
Comment: Under the heading: Expected value The second sentence in the second paragraph should read " The rating of a specific meter may not allow you TO get an accurate reading...
Status: Implemented

Date: 11/24/2023 9:53:13 AM
Module: 030104e
Version: 24
Page: 7
Comment: Figure 8, item f needs to have the normally closed contacts drawn in on the switch.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 11/20/2023 9:47:05 AM
Module: 030104f
Version: 24
Page: 8
Comment: Figure 6 has L1 going to the NO of the form C contact. Correct wiring would be to go to the common connection with L1 and then to the lamp from NO. While this wiring would function in terms of electrical control, it is bad practice because if a load were to be added to the NC contact, it would never function properly.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 11/28/2022 9:55:45 AM
Module: 030104h
Version: 24
Page: 29
Comment: Figure 31 shows the fire alarm system in the alarm state, but there is no identification that this is the case. I feel a notation should be added to explain that this is how systems are drawn so that it doesn't confuse students who ask about the function of the diodes. It is confusing to many that FA systems are drawn this way, so the earlier we can clarify this for the students the better.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 8/31/2022 2:18:56 PM
Module: 030105a
Version: 24
Page: 24
Comment: Question 7 in the self check has misleading verbage. State (5) areas in which non steel type EMT shall be allowed for use: To me it should read: State (5) areas in which either steel or non steel type EMT shall be allowed for use: The wording does not align with the Code very well especially for people just learning how to use the Code book.
Status: Implemented

Date: 11/25/2022 10:26:01 AM
Module: 030105a
Version: 24
Page: 24
Comment: Question 7. State five (5) areas in which non-steel type electrical metallic tubing (EMT) shall be allowed for use: This question was addressed at the last ILM QA meeting (November 24, 2022). I have put more thought into an issue I have regarding this question. "Non-steel" type EMT is not defined in the CEC or the module. I believe the purpose of the question is to highlight Rule 12-402 2) which indicates only steel type EMT can be installed in concrete or masonry contacting the earth. I believe a multiple-choice question may serve this purpose better. Question 7. Of the following areas, where is aluminum EMT (electrical metallic tubing) not permitted to be used? a) wet locations b) in non-combustible buildings c) on combustible buildings d) in concrete contacting the earth (this would be the correct answer) OR Question 7. When installing raceways in concrete, what type of EMT (electrical metallic tubing) is not permitted to be used? a) stainless steel type EMT b) galvanized steel type EMT c) aluminum type EMT (this would be the correct answer) d) none of the above Would it also be a good idea to list the available types of EMT in the module material?
Status: Implemented

Date: 9/2/2022 11:44:17 AM
Module: 030105b
Version: 24
Page: 12
Comment: Question 11 references rule 2-324 answer is actually from rule 2-328
Status: Implemented

Date: 12/5/2022 1:32:41 PM
Module: 030105c
Version:
Page:
Comment: The approach to applying termination temperatures and correction factors in this ILM are contradictory to the way it is done in both the CEC handbook as well as in the Fourth period conductors ILM. This has been a real issue for students as many get to fourth period and struggle with the application of section 4 of the CEC because they were taugh the wrong way. This section (Objective 3) needs an almost total re write.
Status: Implemented

Date: 1/9/2024 3:15:41 PM
Module: 030105c
Version: 24
Page: 24 and 37
Comment: Question 5 in the Objective Three Activity on page 24 should read "THREE three-wire, single-phase circuits" rather than just "Three-wire, single-phase circuits". When calculated with THREE three-wire, single-phase circuits, you are able to get the Objective Three Activity Answer on page 37. The answer also references Table 5C which would indicate that we should be accounting for 6 current carrying conductors.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 11/21/2022 10:44:37 AM
Module: 030105d
Version: 24
Page:
Comment: The service raceway bonding conductor connections in Figures 2 and 14 have not been updated for the new Section 10 requirements. These connections are no longer made at the neutral bar. Edit both diagrams to make this connection on a separate boding lug. Figure 2 on page 10 of 030404a, Figure 9 on page 9 of 030405b, or Figure 4 on page 29 of 030405h can be used as references for these edits.
Status: Implemented

Date: 9/21/2022 3:19:54 PM
Module: 030105d
Version: 24
Page: 31
Comment: Questions 12 and 13 read the same but the answers are different. it looks to me like the termination temperatures or insulation ratings of the conductors need to be changed in order for the question to agree with the answer key.
Status: Implemented

Date: 11/21/2022 1:46:26 PM
Module: 030105e
Version: 24
Page: 24
Comment: The rule reference to Objective Three Activity Answers should be "8-108 1)", as opposed to 2).
Status: Implemented

Date: 12/15/2023 4:40:38 PM
Module: 030105e
Version: 25
Page:
Comment: In an effort to meet Objective 2 of the ILM please clarify the committee's interpretation of 8-200 Single Dwellings Appendix B. If there were a 16 kW range and a 14 kW range in a single dwelling, would it be correct to interpret the "initial range" as the larger 16 kW range and the smaller 14 kW range as the "subsequent range" according to Appendix B?
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 1/23/2023 8:47:34 AM
Module: 030105f
Version: 24
Page: 51
Comment: Objective 9 Activity, Question 9. In the answer key, the answer given for question 9 is not the answer to any of the questions asked. Objective 9 Activity, Question 10. In the answer key, the answer given for question 10 is the correct answer for question 9. There is no correct answer for question 10 in the answer key.
Status: Implemented

Date: 1/27/2023 12:50:11 PM
Module: 030105f
Version: 24
Page: 8
Comment: Objective 2 Activity, Question 2 should be changed from "4160 V" to "1000 V". Table D1 in the CE Code indicates that RWU insulation is rated for only 1000 V, therefore could not be used for a 4160 V service.
Status: Implemented


Archived Comments

Year: 2021

2/23/2021 3:53:28 PM
Module: 030101c
Version: 22
Page:
Comment: On page 15 the opening paragraph states that there are 16 sections in an SDS. The blank sample provided on page 16 & 17 shows only 9 sections and they do not align to the 16 sections outlined at ccohs.ca Please provide an updated SDS sample in the next version.
Status: Implemented

Year: 2020

3/23/2020 1:10:30 PM
Module: 030102g
Version: 21
Page: 16
Comment: example 1 Change b) W=Pxt to kWh = Pxt
Status: Implemented

3/23/2020 1:04:49 PM
Module: 030102f
Version: 21
Page: 6
Comment: Pg. 6 half-way down Change: In from '20 A - 20 A' = 0 to '15 A - 15 A=0'
Status: Declined

3/23/2020 12:41:13 PM
Module: 030103a
Version: 21
Page: 1
Comment: Change the word electromagnetic to ELECTROMOTVE in all the sentences. (EXCEPT "By far the most common method is electromagnetic induction using generators and alternators.") Since the module is about producing EMF, change the word Chemical "generatation" to "production" It should read: This module describes some methods of producing an electromotive force. By far the most common method is electromagnetic induction using generators and alternators. The chemical production of an electromotive force in cells and batteries is a technology that is making significant improvements. The technology of solar cells, producing an electromotive force from light also is improving and is becoming more significant. Three less commons sources of electromotive force are heat, pressure, and electrostatics. An electromotive force is the force that:
Status: Implemented

3/23/2020 12:24:16 PM
Module: 030102d
Version: 21
Page: 30
Comment: Figure 35 is un-necessarily complex for what it is asking a first period to do. Proposal: remove the letters A, B, C, D, E, and F
Status: Implemented

3/23/2020 12:17:52 PM
Module: 030102d
Version: 21
Page: 10
Comment: Figure 10 is unnecessarily complex for what it is asking a first period student to calculate. Proposal: Remove the letters A,B,C,D and symbols IT, IT, I1, I2
Status: Implemented

3/23/2020 12:05:29 PM
Module: 030102d
Version: 21
Page: 2
Comment: Change the displays on both meters to read "V"
Status: Implemented

3/23/2020 11:55:56 AM
Module: 030102c
Version: 21
Page:
Comment: Page 28, in the first 3 paragraphs. Change: 'Solve for R1’ to ‘Solve for V1’ 'Solve for R2’ to ‘Solve for V2’ ‘ 'Solve for R3’ to ‘Solve for V3’
Status: Declined

3/23/2020 11:51:20 AM
Module: 030102c
Version: 21
Page: 15
Comment: Example 2 first sentence. "Change ladder style schematic" to "loop style" .
Status: Implemented

3/23/2020 11:48:22 AM
Module: 030102c
Version: 21
Page: 14
Comment: Top of page, Example 1 Change the 45 to 40 in the equation
Status: Implemented

3/23/2020 11:44:57 AM
Module: 030102c
Version: 21
Page: 9
Comment: Figure 9. Objective 3 is titled Voltage. Figure 9 shows 4 multimeters set to measure resistance instead of voltage. Change the selectors to read V and the screens of the meters should have a V instead of an omega.
Status: Implemented

2/19/2020 9:22:47 AM
Module: 030104h
Version: 21
Page:
Comment: This section refers to dwelling units where a fire alarm system is not installed. Smoke detectors are not used where a CPU isn't installed. The students should be made aware that the term smoke detector is totally different then the term smoke alarm. Page 20 - Connection-Paragraph 2: "When one detector goes into...." should read " when one smoke alarm goes into..." Page 28 - Questions 15 and 16: change "detectors" to "smoke alarms" All questions should specify whether a fire alarm system has been installed or not, or the type of dwelling unit. Detached homes and row housing are treated differently than dwelling units in an apartment building requiring a fire alarm system. Page25, figure 30 - the polarity needs to be reversed on the control panel. When an electrician connects wiring to the panel, the red wire connects to the positive terminal and the black wire to the negative. The panel does the polarity reversal, NOT the installer. Fire alarm signal circuits are drawn in the "ALARM" MODE which is different than control circuits. Page 26 - Class B Signal Circuit - Due to the previous explanation regarding polarity making the diagram appear as if it is in alarm, the explanation of the panel doing the polarity reversal needs to be clarified. Keep in mind we are dealing with first year students who know nothing about fire alarm systems. Page 29 - Question 22 - Sentence 3 should read" The new smoke alarms to be installed do not...."
Status: Implemented

Year: 2019

12/9/2019 1:45:47 PM
Module: 030104h
Version:
Page:
Comment: • The word extra is omitted in the term extra-low voltage in several locations within the document. The 2 examples are in addition to an earlier posting 1. bottom of page 13 2. top of page 15
Status: Implemented

12/3/2019 3:08:17 PM
Module: 030104g
Version: 21
Page: 3
Comment: Please amend the previous Page 3 posting "barriers are factory installed"
Status: Implemented

12/3/2019 2:18:29 PM
Module: 030104g
Version: 21
Page:
Comment: This module could use a modernization. However, in the short-term, small changes can be done in the interim. There are several typos to correct. • The word monetary need to be replace by momentary in several location within the document. 1. bottom of page 3 2. top of page 10 3. top of page 17 • The word extra is omitted in the term extra-low voltage in several locations within the document 1. top of Page 1 2. top of Page 3 3. top of Page 7 • Figure 12 on page 13 is not a schematic diagram. Figure 15 is a better example of a schematic diagram • Remove the word “special” from the first two paragraphs on page 14. It is not necessary. • Sentence 2 at the top of page 3 introduces a term “Isolation sections” with is not necessary. Should read “Barriers are installed to provide a separation between the line voltage circuits and the extra-low voltage control circuits.” • The first sentence of the second paragraph of page 3 could be tidied up to read “The operation of extra-low voltage relays differs from standard relays because they are momentarily energized for both on and off functions. • Replace upper case B from the word Between with lowercase b on the page 3 photograph label.
Status: Implemented

11/18/2019 10:41:02 AM
Module: 030101c
Version:
Page: 45010
Comment: The first 2 objectives in this module cover WHMIS. As of December 2018 the new Global Harmonized System was implemented, which has some significant changes compared to the old WHMIS system that is described in the module. I feel that these 2 objectives should be re-written to align the information with the "WHMIS 2018" or GHS that is now being used in industry for training.
Status: Implemented

10/23/2019 2:21:45 PM
Module: 030105h
Version: 21
Page: 41
Comment: Answer 3 - Rule 10-618 (3) should read Rule 10-610 3) Answer 4 - Rules 40-610 and 12-402 2) c) should read Rule 10-610 1). Delete 12-402 2) c) with restrictions to 1012-402 3) c)
Status: Implemented

10/23/2019 10:20:15 AM
Module: 030105h
Version: 21
Page: 20
Comment: Figure 17 should read 30-200 1), 3)
Status: Implemented

10/23/2019 10:03:20 AM
Module: 030101e
Version:
Page: 21
Comment: 2nd bullet down the page indicates that rubber gloves must be tested according to industry standards . . once a year or more frequently. Testing on rubber gloves requires them to be certified every 6 months. Can you please make this correction. This would also keep the information on this page in line with the comment made on page 38 indicating a 6 month interval for certification.
Status: Implemented

10/11/2019 3:47:29 PM
Module: 030105e
Version: 21
Page:
Comment: Page 4, Objective One Exercises 6. List the five (5) subsections found within Section 8 There are now 6 subsections in Section 8 Page 20, Objective One Exercise Answers, answer 6 There are 2 “a” s in the answer and The answers should reflect the 6 subsections: a. Scope b. General c. Calculated load for services and feeders d. Branch circuits e. Heater receptacles for vehicles powered by flammable or combustible fuels f. Electric vehicle energy management systems
Status: Implemented

10/11/2019 3:44:51 PM
Module: 030105e
Version: 21
Page:
Comment: Objective 2 Page 5, Bottom of the page where it says Refer to Rule 8-110 a), b) and c) · This statement is referring specifically to Rule 8-110. Rule 8-110 no longer refers to second floor or basement. Rewrite to say Plus 100% of any areas above the ground floor used for living purposes and Plus 75% of the area below the ground floor. · Figure 1 should also be changed to reflect the wording in the CEC. Page 6, House #1 Basic Load · Replace the word demand with the word load. The CEC does not refer to demand in this context Page 6, Balance of the Loads · Remove the extra spaces at electric clothes dryer - 8 kW and not 8 kW Page 7 House #1: Total Service Minimum Ampacity · The CEC no longer refers to minimum ampacity – Rewrite the Title to say House #1: Calculated Load · The term ampacity is not being used correctly in the first sentence. Rewrite - Using the power formula P = E x I to calculate the minimum ampacity of a service… to Using the power formula P = E x I to find the calculated current of a service… Page 8, first sentence · requires a comma between single-phase and 3-wire. This is a single-phase, 3-wire… Page 8, second statement · Insert a space between V and =, and remove the spaces the W and / and 240 (make consistent with the rest of the ILM) - 24 000 W / 240 V= 100 A should be 24 000 W/240 V = 100 A Page 8, third paragraph · This paragraph misses a lot of information to find the minimum size of the service conductor. 4-004 1) b) must be referenced first. 4-004 22) may be referenced after that. Both subrules must be referenced to determine the minimum size of service conductor. Also, the phrase “minimum size” of service conductor is not used. Rewrite this paragraph with more and correct details. Page 8, Example · The term total service demand is not used in the CEC. Use the term calculated load. · 18900 W / 240 V = 78.75 should be 18 900 W/240 V = 78.75 (note the space between 18 and 900 and no space between W/240) Page 8, Refer to Rule 4-004 22) · Use the convention of the CEC when referring to temperature ratings. 75℃ should be 75 ℃ This error occurs throughout this ILM. · More information is required in this paragraph. The spotty information leaves the student uninformed · Instead of 89 amps use 89 A for consistency in this ILM Page 9, second bullet · The house is fed from a 120/240 V single-phase Edison 3-wire supply. Insert commas in the appropriate places. The house is fed from a 120/240 V, single-phase, Edison 3-wire supply. Page 9, third bullet · The dimensions of the dwelling are as follows. Insert colon. The dimensions of the dwelling are as follows: Page 9, 1 b), c) d), and e). · The CEC does not use the term demand. Replace all of the terms demand with load as per CEC. · the basic demand to the basic load · the range demand to the range load · the dryer demand to dryer load · the total calculated demand according to Rule 8-200 1) a) to the total calculated load… Page 9, f) · the statement, the minimum ampacity of the service conductors does not ask the correct question regarding the answer in the Objective Two Exercise Answers. The answer talks about the minimum load and not minimum ampacity of service conductors as in the question. Replace the statement in the question to read what is the minimum calculated load. Objective Two · Objective 2 leaves a lot of information out. For example there is no reference to 8-106 3) and 62-118. There are no examples with water heating, electric space heating and air conditioning or electric vehicle charging stations with energy management systems. These are necessary to learn how to determine the calculated load of a single dwelling and all of these items should be at least mentioned in this objective.
Status: Implemented

10/11/2019 3:40:36 PM
Module: 030101d
Version: 21
Page:
Comment: Pages 9, 10 and 11 – Layout (format and fonts) of the titles on each page are inconsistent. Make consistent with each other Page 10 – The title does not reflect what is on the page. The title states second period but Figure 4 is for Third period Page 13, Question 3 – Rewrite the question to say Which sections are covered in the First Period Electrician Training Profile? Page 13, Question 3, distractors – There is no such section named Controls and Switching Circuits in the training profile. Rewrite to state d) Switching Circuits, and Relays and Controls Page 13, Question 3, distractors – The term Canadian Electrical Code does not belong in any of these distractors because the term is not present in the referenced sections of the Electrician Training Profile. Remove Canadian Electrical Code from all of the distractors Page 13, Question 4 – The question states “With reference to your program outline booklet, how many hours are allocated for the first period on Controls and Switching Circuits?” There is no section named Controls and Switching Circuits. Rewrite to: How many hours are allocated in First Period training for Relays and Controls? Page 13, Question 4 – Rewrite the distractors in correct numerical order and to reflect the correct answer: a. 6 b. 10 c. 14 d. 18 The correct answer is c) 14 Page 22 – Figure 10 is missing. Insert the correct figure Page 26, Objective Two Exercise Answers, Answer 3 – Rewrite the answer to reflect the improved question. d) Switching Circuits, and Relays and Controls Page 26, Objective Two Exercise Answers, Answer 4 – Rewrite the answer to reflect the corrected question 4. c) 14
Status: Implemented

10/11/2019 3:37:36 PM
Module: 030104c
Version: 21
Page:
Comment: Page 5, Question 2 – Change What is exothermic welding is used for most often for? to What is exothermic welding most often used for? Page 26 – Objective 1 Exercise Answers, Answer 2 – Change grounding and bonding connections to For making grounding and bonding connections.
Status: Implemented

10/11/2019 3:35:47 PM
Module: 030105c
Version: 21
Page:
Comment: Objective Three Exercise Answers, Answer 5 – Change Rule 4-004 1) 8) to Rule 4-004 1), 7)
Status: Implemented

10/11/2019 3:34:38 PM
Module: 030105a
Version: 21
Page: 25
Comment: Objective 5 Exercise Answers, Answer 2 – Change Rule 4-038 1) to Rule 4-032 1)
Status: Implemented

10/11/2019 3:31:33 PM
Module: 030105e
Version: 21
Page:
Comment: The title is incorrect. It should read Service, Feeders and Branch Circuits – Section 8. Note the comma between Service and Feeder The use of “you” throughout the ILM is an incorrect writing style for a technical ILM. Rewrite the ILM without using this style of writing Page 1, Objective 2. The CEC no longer uses the term “minimum ampacity of service or feeder conductors…” The CEC now uses the term “calculated load for services and feeders”. The term “minimum ampacity of service conductors” should be replaced with “calculated load” This module does nothing to address branch circuits supplying 5-15R and 5-20R receptacles or lighting. Considering the title includes branch circuits some of these examples should be included All references to the term “minimum ampacity of service conductors” should be replaced with “calculated load” Page 1, Introduction, bottom paragraph is completely misleading. It does not take into account 120 V vs. 240 V Page 2, Introduction. “If you were to turn on all of the loads in your house at one time, the main circuit breaker would trip because it would be overloaded” is completely incorrect and based on no data. Remove this statement form the ILM Page 3, Section 8 Terms – “The words demand or demand factor refer to the fact that a circuit or system generally requires less ampacity to operate…” This statement is incorrect because the term ampacity only refers to the current carrying capacity of a conductor and cannot be used to describe a circuit. See CEC definitions – Ampacity. Page 5 – Single Family Service Calculations - The subtitle is incorrect because the CEC does not refer to a “single family”. This should read - Single Dwelling Service Calculations Page 5 – Single Family Service Calculations – “Using a calculator and the applicable CEC rules, you can figure out the demand in order to select the size of a service for a single dwelling. This whole sentence should be rewritten but the major errors include using the word demand and the word size. The word demand should be replaced with the term calculated load and the word size should be replaced with word rating.
Status: Implemented

10/11/2019 3:28:10 PM
Module: 030105c
Version: 21
Page:
Comment: Page 33, Answer 2, It should read Subrule 14 and not Subrule 15 Page 33, Answer 4, It should read Subrule 7 and not Subrule 8 Pages 32 and 33 the word subrule should be capitalized when referring to a specific subrule as per CEC format. i.e. “Subrule 2” not “subrule 2” Throughout the ILM. Use the CEC format when using °C. 90 °C is the correct format. 90°C is not. (Note the space between the number and °C)
Status: Implemented

1/1/2019 12:00:00 AM
Module: 030104e
Version: 4
Page: 30
Comment: The diagram shown in figure 38 shows two chime units connected for an upstairs/downstairs chime configuration. The symbol that is given as a chime unit in the module has the front and back solenoid coils connected to a common T terminal. I feel that there should be two separate chime unit symbols complete with the 1, 2 and T terminals shown on the diagram. This would keep the chime units intact as they would need to be when installed. I would even suggest a dashed line around each chime unit to identify which one is the upstairs unit and which is the downstairs unit.
Status: Declined