Electrician (ELE)

2024 Guide - Second Period Package (34 modules) Comments

Date: 9/6/2024 8:53:49 AM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 33
Comment: 2024 version of this module: Obj 7, question 3 asks about inductive circuit in an objective about capacitance. The answer on page 41 answers about a capacitive circuit. Question 3 should read: State the phase relationship between Vxc and Ixc in a purely capacitive circuit.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/9/2024 11:32:55 AM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 21 and 25
Comment: Page 21, Objective Three Activity, Question 6. - An angle of 198° is used in the question. Page 25, Objective Three Activity Answers, Question 6. - An angle of 196° is used in the answer.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/9/2024 11:38:08 AM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 34 and 41
Comment: Page 34, Objective Seven Activity, Question 3. - References an "inductive circuit" in the question. Page 41, Objective Seven Activity Answers, Question 3. - References an "capacitive circuit" in the answer, the answer is correct to a capacitive circuit and the objective is covering capacitive circuits.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/13/2024 3:18:47 PM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 25 and 56
Comment: Page 25 - Objective Three Activity - Question 3 Page 56 - Objective Three Activity Answers - Question 3 - Question a) is Answer a) Answer b) is Answer a) Question b) is Answer c) Question c) is Answer d) Question d) has no answer given.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/13/2024 3:47:16 PM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 20
Comment: Objective Four - Page 20 - Example Two - Solution Two - 1. "Demand factor, Rule 62-116" should be "Demand factor, Rule 62-118". Rule 62-116 is Ground fault protection After the demand factor of 62-118 is applied the 20 kW hallway electric space heating demand is 17. 5 kW. According to Rule 8-106 3) "whichever is the greater load shall be used in calculating the demand. The 18 kVA air conditioning is the greater load at 100% demand and using the 17.5 kW demand for electric space heating will not accommodate the air conditioning load.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/17/2024 9:32:26 AM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 12 and 32
Comment: Objective Three Activity - Page 12 - Question 4. - 106µF capacitor. Objective Three Activity Answers - Page 32 - Question 4. - 500µF capacitor. A 106µF capacitor is correct it should be corrected from 500µF to 106µF in the Objective Three Activity Answers on Page 32 should be corrected to 480 var.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/17/2024 2:36:50 PM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 14
Comment: In the right column of the flow chart, second box, the arrow correctly indicates that current increases when inductive reactance decreases but the wording at the bottom of the second box incorrectly states "Current Decreases", it should correctly state Current Increases.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/17/2024 2:43:46 PM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 10
Comment: Table 1 - Capacitance effect on voltage The bottom right box in correctly states, "The capacitance tries to prevent the voltage from increasing" It should correctly state, The capacitance tries to prevent the voltage from decreasing
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/17/2024 3:25:32 PM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 29 and 34
Comment: Page 29 - Self-Test - Question 3., the answer should correctly be a) Quadrature power Page 34 - Self-Test Answers - Question 3., the answer is incorrectly b) Apparent power
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/18/2024 2:02:34 PM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 53
Comment: Based off the answer key saying the answer is plenum I suspect this question is meant to be ask the blower motor not the combuation air blower: 1. The combustion air blower forces air directly into the a) Heat exchanger. b) Plenum. c) Flue. d) Cold air return duct. The following question: 6. What voltage does an intermittent pilot ignition system require? a) 24 Vac b) 24 Vdc c) 120 Vac d) A very high stepped-up voltage Lists (d) as the answer but the information about intermittent pilot ignition systems early in the module says "Intermittent pilot ignition systems (IP) may utilize either spark ignition or hot surface ignition to light a pilot burner." These two options use different voltages. Question should be more specific about what type of IP is used.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 3/7/2025 8:26:41 AM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 11
Comment: Typo on step 8. Currently reads rule 802. Should read 8-202
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 3/18/2025 9:19:05 AM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 32
Comment: Question 4 answer key. The Farads is wrong, making the capacitive reactance also wrong, making the vars also wrong. Side note: can we add brackets in all of the formulas that need them in the modules? Entering the formula without the brackets in the denominator is wrong. If not, can we add a note somewhere when we introduce the XC formula to add the brackets in?
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 3/18/2025 9:14:36 AM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 26
Comment: Q=E X I X sin theta =240 V X 6.4 A X 0.6 The 0.6 in the equation is supposed to be a 0.8
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 3/18/2025 9:08:46 AM
Module: 030201a
Version: 1
Page: 48
Comment: The table says 346.3 Amps, it should read 356.3 degrees.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 6/20/2025 9:29:14 AM
Module: 030201a
Version: 02
Page: 34
Comment: Self-Test Answers 3. b) No. 4 AWG is incorrect, "if all terminations are 75 °C". Self-Test Answers 3. c) No. 6 AWG is correct CE Code 26-208 1) 44 A x 1.35 = 59.4 A Table 2 - 75 °C Column - No.6 AWG - 65 A
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 6/18/2025 3:10:48 PM
Module: 030201a
Version: 02
Page: 8
Comment: The code rule referenced in the fifth paragraph is incorrectly referenced as 62-118, it should correctly reference 62-114.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 6/18/2025 3:06:38 PM
Module: 030201a
Version: 02
Page: 7 and 17
Comment: Objective Two Activity (Page 7) 1. An apartment building has 24 suites. Each suite has 3000 W of electric space heating and 2500 W of air conditioning. If they cannot be operated at the same time, which of the two would be used towards calculating the main service demand? Objective Two Activity Answers (Page 17) 1. The electric space heating. Rule 8-106 3) indicates to use the larger load. (Incorrect) Correctly, the air conditioning is the larger load. Rule 8-106 3) indicates to use larger load. If one uses the electric space heating, its calculated demand of 56.5 kW as permitted by 62-118 3) does not accommodate for the 60 kW air-conditioning load. Electric space heat = 56.5 kW 24 suites x 3000 W = 72 kW Demand factor, Rule 62-118 10 kW @ 100% = 10 kW 62 kW @75% = 46.5 Air-conditioning = 60 kW 24 suites x 2500 W = 60 kW 60 kW x 100% = 60 kW
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 9/3/2025 9:47:34 AM
Module: 030201a
Version: 2
Page: 17
Comment: Question 3 in Self Test Which conductor is acceptable for a Class 1 signal circuit if EMT is the wiring method and the overcurrent protection is 5A? a) No. 18 AWG copper b) No. 18 AWG aluminum c) No. 16 AWG aluminum d) No. 16 AWG copper Answer given is No. 16 AWG copper. Rule 16-104 Overcurrent protection of Class 1 circuits - subrule 1) b) the protection device shall rated at 5A for No.18 AWG copper (No.16 AWG copper shall be protected by 10A overcurrent device)
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 8/19/2025 2:30:13 PM
Module: 030201a
Version: 02
Page: 46
Comment: Objective Three Activity Answers 3. Table 9G = 27 trade size rigid PVC 7 I assume the last (7) is a typo
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 8/19/2025 2:21:54 PM
Module: 030201a
Version: 02
Page: 19
Comment: I see the term "house" panel has returned in version two when it was properly eliminated in version one. This is a term we have used for years however that does NOT make it proper. This should have correctly been left out as it was in version one and not someone's personal bias be reintroduced because it is something they have used for years or decades.
Status: Approved for Review

Date: 8/19/2025 2:17:46 PM
Module: 030201a
Version: 02
Page: 17, 31, 46, 48 & 49
Comment: FIVE times in this ILM it references TSC, which I assume is trade size conduit however this is NOT common nomenclature and there is no where I can see that provides a clear meaning for the TSC acronym used.
Status: Approved for Review

Archived Comments

Year: 2021

1/25/2021 8:18:22 AM
Module: 030205e
Version: 21
Page: 24
Comment: Note Mentioned Rule 4-024 2) b) but there was no such Rule. The rule it was referring to is Rule 4-018 2) b).
Status: Implemented

1/6/2021 9:18:33 AM
Module: 030203g
Version:
Page:
Comment: In some of the modules and evening course packs I find the black and white pictures can be very hard to see things in. Example. I am working on HVAC rooftop units and the one photo of the compressor it is suppose to show a crankcase heater that is band type and I can't see anything or make anything out. I feel even that the modules could be mostly black and white and at least have colour pictures so we can have a better visual on what we are looking at.
Status: Declined

Year: 2019

12/16/2019 2:08:04 PM
Module: 030205d
Version:
Page: 3
Comment: In the middle of page 3 there is a statement indicating "The second subtopic in Section 10 is titled "System and Circuit Grounding". There is no such subsection listed in the index or shown in section 10. This statement should be replaced with a different introduction to the information of this section.
Status: Declined

10/31/2019 1:39:16 PM
Module: 030201b
Version: 21
Page: 16
Comment: In Example 3, it is asking for the instantaneous value of current at 25 degrees. In the equation it uses 'I' instead of 'i' to represent instantaneous current. Page 14 tells us that instantaneous values are represented by lower case letters. The upper case 'I' on page 16 should be a lower case 'i'.
Status: Implemented

1/1/2019 12:00:00 AM
Module: 030204e
Version: 5
Page: 7
Comment: Second paragraph: "Two-wire control uses a maintained contact type of pilot device such as thermostat or float switch." Neither is a maintained type. Please clarify: "can be maintained such as toggle and selector switch or a momentary automatic pilot device such as thermostat or float switch" or something similar. Thanks
Status: Implemented

1/1/2019 12:00:00 AM
Module: 030202e
Version: 5
Page: 14
Comment: Figure 11 shows a motor current of 25.75A but the question (paragraph above) says the current of the motor at 25.60A The calculation/answer is based off the 25.75 in the figure.
Status: Implemented

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